In this participative conference, the artist Maria Arnal and the curator José Luis de Vicente choir to offer us a new chapter (and a reflection on it) of their long and prolific creative collaboration, which has given rise to projects such as the artistic direction of the album Clamor, the Hipermirador Barcelona at Mirador Torre Glòries (with John Talabot), the podcast Cada Capa de l'Atmosfera, nominated for two Ondas awards, the show Holly +, by Holly Herndon, presented at Sónar 2021, or the performative conference Mil sibil·les (with Eduard Escoffet).